tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13883584.post7310179413771464014..comments2024-03-29T12:10:24.356+00:00Comments on Yorkshire Pudding: MeatYorkshire Puddinghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06019673884543913089noreply@blogger.comBlogger35125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13883584.post-63637020387640574822021-06-20T00:17:14.095+01:002021-06-20T00:17:14.095+01:00I rarely eat meat but have no fundamental problem ...I rarely eat meat but have no fundamental problem about eating animals, (it's what most animals do, and we are animals), if looked after well and killed instantly and without stress, it is the conditions they are kept in and the stress of the queue for the slaughterhouse that bothers me. Hence I rarely eat meat, but hypocritically I sometimes do; and modern dairy production has its cruelties too. By the way, something about me that few people can comprehend is that I don't like Yorkshire Pudding (but don't take that personally old chap).Andrew R. Scotthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15824432165509761439noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13883584.post-6424581193546771052021-06-16T02:29:15.796+01:002021-06-16T02:29:15.796+01:00I am an unapologetic omnivore and firmly believe t...I am an unapologetic omnivore and firmly believe that this is the diet humans are meant to follow. But at the same time I do not think we need anywhere near the amount of meat that is normally consumed as part of the modern western diet.<br /><br />I'm not a hypocrite and have butchered meat and fish. My dad was a big fisherman and we all got our first rods at around 3 years of age. But we were taught not to waste and it was either "catch & release" or "eat it for dinner".<br /><br />I often enjoy vegetarian meals and fully support things like "meatless Monday" but I'm afraid that Veganism is a step too far for me. I have friends who are vegan and have gamely gone to dinner at their homes or to local restaurants. I have found the food to either be quite tasteless or tasting overwhelmingly of either tomato or curry. I have a soy sensitivity so many of the products that are offered as a substitute for meat or cheese are off my menu (not to be too graphic but much of the next few days would be spent in the loo). I would much rather eat actual food than processed alternatives but to each their own.Margie from Torontohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10103835021764804099noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13883584.post-31599809046225123542021-06-15T09:53:44.263+01:002021-06-15T09:53:44.263+01:00There's a mxim - I think from Michael Pollen t...There's a mxim - I think from Michael Pollen that says our diet rules should be<br /><br />"Eat food, not too much, mostly plants'<br /><br />By eat food he means items that look like food, that are not overly processed and don't have multiple ingredients<br /><br />It's a good maxim I think.<br /><br />And as for the meat vs care for animals thing, our lives are full of small contradictions; even the vegans will have to make compromises. I'm all for healthy balance and a healthy respect for others. The bike shedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05195882998271591934noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13883584.post-80098151528922734712021-06-15T08:56:22.748+01:002021-06-15T08:56:22.748+01:00I eat animals that are cheerfully wandering around...I eat animals that are cheerfully wandering around until they’re killed. In Australia the cattle and sheep I buy are in pastures until they’re killed. I also eat kangaroo. Curly Clubhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12802333414956803595noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13883584.post-2138874223464884522021-06-15T04:31:51.208+01:002021-06-15T04:31:51.208+01:00I don't know how I could live without eating m...I don't know how I could live without eating meat or fish, though I do not like the thought of hunting and slaughtering animals one bit. <br /><br />That said I have thought about vegetarianism a bit lately, not for myself but because a girl in my office is a vegetarian and I have had to consider what she can and can't eat when we order lunch. It's certainly an admirable lifestyle (though I think she <i>has</i> to avoid meat for health reasons) It's just not for me. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13883584.post-24503664258930024872021-06-15T01:37:53.278+01:002021-06-15T01:37:53.278+01:00I don't want to be completely vegetarian or ve...I don't want to be completely vegetarian or vegan but have been heading in those directions for probably 20 years. My efforts were hampered by a very resistant family but they have all made progress and we are more United about it these days.<br />We no longer have dairy milk in the house at all, eat less cheese, less eggs, less meat etc<br /><br />I still find it harder to cook vegan and vegetarian meals, it's a whole different way of thinking and planning but it's worth the effort.<br /><br />I have known children raised vegan who were always healthy and have heard of others who struggle.kyliehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17733888108530605722noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13883584.post-1580083176448261612021-06-14T22:42:41.984+01:002021-06-14T22:42:41.984+01:00My husband is a hunter. I don't have the heart...My husband is a hunter. I don't have the heart for it. I eat meat but left to my own devices, I'd be happy to eat salad every day of my life. Tim would not be happy to subsist on salad alone. And so I eat meat that I could never kill which makes me a hypocrite of the highest order.Debbyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09531125606268748793noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13883584.post-53819065875575031212021-06-14T16:52:36.266+01:002021-06-14T16:52:36.266+01:00Exactly! I'm definitely on the very low end of...Exactly! I'm definitely on the very low end of meat consumption as are you it sounds like.Margarethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17197599882756386184noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13883584.post-85658045713445462562021-06-14T15:33:24.125+01:002021-06-14T15:33:24.125+01:00I have been a vegan for the past six years. I beg...I have been a vegan for the past six years. I began it for health reasons, but quickly came to the conclusion it's what's best for the planet. That said... I use to hunt (don't really have the heart for that much anymore), enjoy fishing, and still cook animal protein for my husband. We have a small herd of beef cattle (I try not to think about their future) and have bees (I do eat honey). If I were forced to eat meat again (zombie apocalypse or something), I'd try to acquire a taste for game. Harvesting wild animals seems more humane to me than the whole abattoir process. Done right, a wild animal never knows what happened and (hopefully) doesn't suffer. Kellyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00859017153454691633noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13883584.post-17982802548642943232021-06-14T14:33:03.545+01:002021-06-14T14:33:03.545+01:00Funny of our choice in blog topics today as mine i...Funny of our choice in blog topics today as mine is similar to yours in a way. I grew up on meat and potatoes at every meal but have strayed away from that greatly as I have aged. These days we probably buy and consume 40 or 50 pounds of red meat a year which sounds like a lot until I say that is for our family of five. We tend to eat a lot more chicken or seafood these days but are completely comfortable with vegetarian meals. <br /> <br />I personally feel though that the whole topic of cows being bad for the environment is WAY overblown by media hype and lack of research. People always sight manure runoff as a huge issue yet grain/produce farming, urban lawn fertilizing and natural atmospheric deposits each contribute more nitrogen to our streams than cows do. Then there is the topic of cows burping and farting and yet what they rudely let fly into the environment pales in what is released when one considers all the fossil fuels we use to run things.<br /><br />On a related note, there is research being done with seaweed in cattle feed that reduced methane emissions by a whopping 90%.Edhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13214319366049620074noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13883584.post-43725176245792007932021-06-14T13:49:44.227+01:002021-06-14T13:49:44.227+01:00As you know, we have a very different relationship...As you know, we have a very different relationship with meat. My husband is a hunter and he butchers the meat himself. Neither we nor our grandchildren can fool themselves about where meat comes from. Same with fish. I do buy meat in stores sometimes. We grow a lot of our food too but I buy vegetables and fruit in stores when we crave something we're not growing. When I do buy meat, I try to buy the sort from humanely raised and butchered animals. <br />Having said all of that, I don't feel entirely comfortable about eating meat. And like Steve- if I had to kill my own, I would be vegetarian. Ms. Moonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09776404747858099919noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13883584.post-83041105862625636152021-06-14T12:23:01.147+01:002021-06-14T12:23:01.147+01:00I was vegetarian for years until I met Dave, who l...I was vegetarian for years until I met Dave, who loves to cook and serve meat. I now generally eat vegetarian when it's up to me, and eat meat for evening meals when Dave cooks. (He sometimes cooks vegetarian too, so he's trying.)<br /><br />If I had to kill my own food I would definitely be vegetarian. Unless I was starving.Steve Reedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11684120060438252945noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13883584.post-31938868456164022672021-06-14T12:18:43.576+01:002021-06-14T12:18:43.576+01:00Just a wee testimonial. A couple of years ago I we...Just a wee testimonial. A couple of years ago I went 'whole foods, plant based' as an experiment. Never felt better, enjoy my meals and wish I'd given up meat and dairy products years ago. (My dairy farming ancestors must be spinning in their graves.)Out To Pasturehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17949493910996476623noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13883584.post-25533602523845080452021-06-14T11:35:05.244+01:002021-06-14T11:35:05.244+01:00I find it disgusting. Like you, we had meat nearly...I find it disgusting. Like you, we had meat nearly every day when I was little, some of which I enjoyed, although I never liked greasy fatty joints and chops and gravy and often got into trouble for refusing it. The sight of cows and sheep peering out of transporter always disturbed me. Haven't eaten meat for years now. I eat fish but now realise it's unsustainable. It's just by chance that aesthetics put me on the right side of the environmental argument. Don't know how I would have coped when my mother was growing up in a Yorkshire village where they kept and butchered their own pigs. <br />Tasker Dunhamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17634612033217902946noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13883584.post-12883230129712314082021-06-14T11:11:00.855+01:002021-06-14T11:11:00.855+01:00Same as you, Neil, I am aware of the contraditcion...Same as you, Neil, I am aware of the contraditcion and hypocrisy in my professed love of animals and nature and meat consumption. Also same as you, if I had to provide for my own meaty meals, I would not eat it at all - the thought of having to take another life only so that I have meat (or fish) on my plate does not appeal at all.<br />But... I like meat, I like fried sausages, I like salami and ham and bacon, and I also like filet of trout and other fish. The amount of what I eat is below average, as I usually only have any of this on weekends, and not even that is a given.<br />If I had to make do without cheese and other dairy products, that would be much harder. And I know that the dairy industry is not exactly looking out for animal welfare, either.<br />So, yes, the dilemma is there. Wherever possible, I rather pay more for local produce and/or from places where I hope I can trust their claim of sticking to high standards in raising livestock and growing produce.<br /><br />I admire what Ian and many others are doing, and I know it would only be a bit of an effort to imitate their shining example.Librarianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05704656564078750607noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13883584.post-51698516221736189912021-06-14T11:10:46.188+01:002021-06-14T11:10:46.188+01:00Same as you, Neil, I am aware of the contraditcion...Same as you, Neil, I am aware of the contraditcion and hypocrisy in my professed love of animals and nature and meat consumption. Also same as you, if I had to provide for my own meaty meals, I would not eat it at all - the thought of having to take another life only so that I have meat (or fish) on my plate does not appeal at all.<br />But... I like meat, I like fried sausages, I like salami and ham and bacon, and I also like filet of trout and other fish. The amount of what I eat is below average, as I usually only have any of this on weekends, and not even that is a given.<br />If I had to make do without cheese and other dairy products, that would be much harder. And I know that the dairy industry is not exactly looking out for animal welfare, either.<br />So, yes, the dilemma is there. Wherever possible, I rather pay more for local produce and/or from places where I hope I can trust their claim of sticking to high standards in raising livestock and growing produce.<br /><br />I admire what Ian and many others are doing, and I know it would only be a bit of an effort to imitate their shining example.Librarianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05704656564078750607noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13883584.post-18479546457033789962021-06-14T11:02:24.546+01:002021-06-14T11:02:24.546+01:00Eating meat is a personal choice. When I was young...Eating meat is a personal choice. When I was young, vegetarian was just a word, and until I was in my teens I had never been aware of knowing one. My first experience was going to tea at a friend's house, and afterwards telling my mother that we had a nice salad - except for the peanuts (which I've always hated) and they had forgotten the meat! My mother explained that was because they were vegetarian. Apparently the family were viewed with some mistrust, and were definitely considered weird!<br />I eat meat and fish in moderation, and will continue to do so, as they have always been part of my diet. I have non-meat/fish days, but some of the alternatives, if I were to go wholly vegetarian, are not foods I would enjoy or even consider eating. <br />Being vegetarian is not just about omitting meat and fish from your diet, it's also about reading the labels on every packet to check that there are no animal by products, that the eggs you buy are really free range, no butter, and the vegetables are organic. If you are really committed you buy your food at health food shops, although these days it's easier, with supermarkets offering organic and sustainably sourced produce. <br />The slaughter of animals for food has been part of our culture, and has built up a gigantic industry over the past century. What would we do with all the surplus animals, if the whole world suddenly became vegetarian or vegan? Coppa's girlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16459503600694841117noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13883584.post-10746982997326881742021-06-14T10:23:13.247+01:002021-06-14T10:23:13.247+01:00If we all ate less meat it would help the planet. ...If we all ate less meat it would help the planet. Cutting it out completely is too much of a step for most of us.Yorkshire Puddinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06019673884543913089noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13883584.post-68317884702434435522021-06-14T10:21:32.454+01:002021-06-14T10:21:32.454+01:00A very interesting response Tigger. Thank you.A very interesting response Tigger. Thank you.Yorkshire Puddinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06019673884543913089noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13883584.post-79365420507044883172021-06-14T10:20:12.524+01:002021-06-14T10:20:12.524+01:00You could suggest just one meat-free day a week.You could suggest just one meat-free day a week.Yorkshire Puddinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06019673884543913089noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13883584.post-68011540964976524382021-06-14T10:18:49.327+01:002021-06-14T10:18:49.327+01:00So many animals are fattened unnaturally these day...So many animals are fattened unnaturally these days.Yorkshire Puddinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06019673884543913089noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13883584.post-87507021379541564122021-06-14T10:17:53.972+01:002021-06-14T10:17:53.972+01:00To prevent allergic reactions in the future, it is...To prevent allergic reactions in the future, it is probably a good idea to introduce babies to a wide range of foodstuffs - including meat.Yorkshire Puddinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06019673884543913089noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13883584.post-54517430323146850212021-06-14T10:16:20.640+01:002021-06-14T10:16:20.640+01:00They haven't always been here. We look at hill...They haven't always been here. We look at hill farms where sheep roam and think it is "natural" but it isn't. Sheep were introduced to these islands several centuries back in history.Yorkshire Puddinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06019673884543913089noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13883584.post-69950698674419923432021-06-14T10:13:58.768+01:002021-06-14T10:13:58.768+01:00More and more people are seriously considering the...More and more people are seriously considering these questions.Yorkshire Puddinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06019673884543913089noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13883584.post-11881155735258004722021-06-14T10:13:11.151+01:002021-06-14T10:13:11.151+01:00If the male animals had not been born you could no...If the male animals had not been born you could not slaughter them.Yorkshire Puddinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06019673884543913089noreply@blogger.com