tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13883584.post9017568564702448732..comments2024-03-29T01:58:40.773+00:00Comments on Yorkshire Pudding: ForcefieldYorkshire Puddinghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06019673884543913089noreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13883584.post-78255320313869923672012-10-02T10:34:46.625+01:002012-10-02T10:34:46.625+01:00HIPPO At first I thought you were going to defend ...HIPPO At first I thought you were going to defend Forrest, humming "It Must Be Love" or something. Though I wouldn't have said it in such strong terms I am of course in total agreement with your sentiments on this matter. However, I doubt that Cumbrian would support your views.Yorkshire Puddinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06019673884543913089noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13883584.post-30713813431200966712012-09-30T21:34:54.222+01:002012-09-30T21:34:54.222+01:00By all means kill this comment, Sir Pud, but I fee...By all means kill this comment, Sir Pud, but I feel I need to express rather a strong view on this. I shall start off gently.<br /><br />If I entrust my daughter or my son into the care of a responsible adult, I expect that that adult will neither fuck nor bugger them but instead guide them through the vulnerable stage all teenagers have to go through before they themselves become adults and can make their own considered decisions.<br /><br />I could not give a flying toss if the French feel it appropriate to shag teenagers, it has nothing to do with the awful betrayal of trust committed by this teacher.<br /><br />He should be taken to his place of origin and flogged to within an inch of his his life alongside all those apologising for him.<br /><br />He is an an adult who has committed statutory rape, now he must pay the price for his betrayal.<br /><br />But then again, some of you are evidently comfortable with the idea of your under age daughters being screwed in a broom cupboard while you think they are conjugating verbs.<br /><br />Get real.<br /><br />In Angola we'd have shot the bastard and have had done with it.Hippohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09468795398813061897noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13883584.post-26507395453011832352012-09-30T18:14:21.443+01:002012-09-30T18:14:21.443+01:00CUMBRIAN You call her a "young woman" bu...CUMBRIAN You call her a "young woman" but she is a child and children's minds can easily be manipulated by cunning adults. They, like me, are from England and we don't live by French law. He was holding hands with the child on the ferry - clearly demonstrating an unhealthy "romantic" attraction. No I am afraid you have not persuaded me that my use of "paedophile" and "abductor" was somehow inaccurate or too strong. None of us should make any sort of apology for Forrest in my way of thinking.Yorkshire Puddinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06019673884543913089noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13883584.post-91850250240901505672012-09-29T14:09:56.916+01:002012-09-29T14:09:56.916+01:00Paedophile - Somebody sexually attracted to childr...Paedophile - Somebody sexually attracted to children.<br />I know this leaves it open to argument as to what are children? But this 15-year-old is more a young woman than a child. The French police stated that she was not too young sexually under French law. <br /><br />Abductor - somebody who kidnaps.<br />I don't think this young woman was kidnapped, at least in the sense of the word as I understand it.<br /><br />From what I understand, the young woman went with the bloke willingly, has not been harmed, and is now safely back nome.<br /><br />I really agree this guy has made a big mistake, and caused a lot of un-necessary anxiety, but hardly paedophile or abductor?cumbrianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10047500383078884463noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13883584.post-50979994653245472192012-09-29T11:00:28.681+01:002012-09-29T11:00:28.681+01:00BRIAN Your situation was clearly different as Lady...BRIAN Your situation was clearly different as Lady Brian was an adult but I can hear that the matter did cause you a degree of angst.<br />DAVE "Trust no matter what" - that's exactly it Dave.<br />HIPPO Interesting question. . I think that Ann Marie would have been arrested for trying to suffocate me! But mobile phones can cause a lot of unwelcome mischief in schools.<br />CUMBRIAN Of course you are entitled to your view but I stick with "paedophile" and "abductor". Forrest is probably worse than a stranger because he effectively used his position as a teacher to ensnare a child.Yorkshire Puddinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06019673884543913089noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13883584.post-17490926108864283762012-09-27T11:31:18.349+01:002012-09-27T11:31:18.349+01:00I think paedophile is a bit too strong a word.
As...I think paedophile is a bit too strong a word.<br /><br />As somebody pointed out, some 15-year-olds can look and even act incredibly mature, and some 30-year-olds can be incredibly immature.<br /><br />OK, so this guy made a mistake, but it's not the end of the world, and I don't think it classes him as either a paedophile or an abducter.cumbrianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10047500383078884463noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13883584.post-29811551269152052192012-09-27T09:51:23.167+01:002012-09-27T09:51:23.167+01:00Just as an aside, Sir P, imagine if Ann Marie'...Just as an aside, Sir P, imagine if Ann Marie's friend had been in possession of a mobile phone camera and had snapped that crucial moment. The shit storm you would have endured after the photo did the rounds would have been unbelievable.Hippohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09468795398813061897noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13883584.post-49352500248997234722012-09-27T09:21:58.291+01:002012-09-27T09:21:58.291+01:00We heard about this 'abduction' on our TV ...We heard about this 'abduction' on our TV news YP. Yes, a teacher must always remember to maintain trust no matter what. Thanks for relating your personal experience - DaveDavehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06851174879441602754noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13883584.post-84203812017177355212012-09-27T07:57:39.836+01:002012-09-27T07:57:39.836+01:00You're right, some youngsters (and not so youn...You're right, some youngsters (and not so young) develop crushes on their teachers - in my 24 years' teaching I think I've neatly sidestepped 3 or 4 possible cases. I say possible as I'm only judging by the looks the girls (and one woman) gave me and attitudes, though nothing has got anywhere near as far as an Anna Marie snog! <br />The 5th case; I didn't sidestep as the "crush" was mutual, and we have now been together for 19 years, married for 16 of them :) In my defence, I have to say that my wife was already an adult (just!) when I met her (I teach all ages), and had left school. Brianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06613762050863476962noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13883584.post-46206681277103589512012-09-27T02:09:45.991+01:002012-09-27T02:09:45.991+01:00DAPHNE & JAN You both seem to show inklings of...DAPHNE & JAN You both seem to show inklings of more forgiveness and understanding than I could possibly offer to Forrest. Essentially, he's a paedophile in my book and such people should surely not be working with children.Yorkshire Puddinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06019673884543913089noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13883584.post-34634535921617725412012-09-26T22:17:16.782+01:002012-09-26T22:17:16.782+01:00When I was a junior in high school, one of my clas...When I was a junior in high school, one of my classmates had a crush on our school bus driver, who was probably 10 years older. They married a year later when she graduated and are still married to this day. I find that amazing. At the time it was just gross.Jan Blawathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06697621979002856884noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13883584.post-19537859873347858332012-09-26T20:37:07.815+01:002012-09-26T20:37:07.815+01:00Some 15-year-old girls can, of course, appear very...Some 15-year-old girls can, of course, appear very mature (even though they're not, emotionally) and some 30-year-old men can be very immature and have their heads turned easily by teenage adoration. I think it's tricky for young male teachers (I used to advise them never to go into the stock cupboard alone with female students!) What this man has done is of course wrong but I'm not surprised that this kind of thing happens from time to time.Daphnehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14469075813149239051noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13883584.post-58338145272993538442012-09-26T16:42:00.568+01:002012-09-26T16:42:00.568+01:00HIPPO I also worry about the potential "vile ...HIPPO I also worry about the potential "vile consequences" of this abduction. Why did I teach?...Well, that would take a while to explain but factors would include <br />a) I was/am naturally good at it - a talent for teaching.<br />b) I was teaching English in which creativity could blossom - not loathsome Maths like Mr Forrest.<br />c) I was born in a schoolhouse because my dad was a village schoolmaster. I grew up with teaching just as miners' sons grew up with mining.<br />d) At first I thought I could make a beneficial impact on the lives of some poorer children - slightly alter the status quo.<br />e) The pay was okay - a steady job for life.<br /><br />Perhaps I'll devote a blogpost to this one day...Yorkshire Puddinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06019673884543913089noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13883584.post-42867132006460089252012-09-26T14:50:26.410+01:002012-09-26T14:50:26.410+01:00It is, as you point out, a shocking betrayal of tr...It is, as you point out, a shocking betrayal of trust.<br /><br />I still don't know exactly how many adorable neices I inherited when I set up home with Marcia but tease as lots of teenagers like to do, they are just testing the water as they sort their hormones out. An adult taking advantage of such vulnerability really deserves some close attention of a rather more urgent kind. I was an expert at that in the old days but am willing to come out of retirement. But then, I was always a hot head so it should be the minds of the calm and objective that prevail. Only armed with the full story can we make a judgement and in so doing, offer this teacher the opportunity to hand himself in to twelve good men and true and not a lynch mob.<br /><br />What concerns me is that the longer he takes to regain his senses and the more public ire is aroused, he may lose them altogether, with potentially vile consequences. <br /><br />I was a soldier, Sir Pudding, and saw everything in black and white, which is why they never made me a General.<br /><br />What did you teach, by the way?Hippohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09468795398813061897noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13883584.post-10751582980043606212012-09-26T14:44:01.259+01:002012-09-26T14:44:01.259+01:00EARL GRAY Ha! Ha! Precisely. Such a teen fan assau...EARL GRAY Ha! Ha! Precisely. Such a teen fan assault would never have happened in my final years at the chalkface because by then I had become ugly as my profile picture proves.Yorkshire Puddinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06019673884543913089noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13883584.post-40437450889999318792012-09-26T14:25:05.793+01:002012-09-26T14:25:05.793+01:00bet you were hot stuff when you were younger YP
sh...bet you were hot stuff when you were younger YP<br />shame about the ravages of time eh?John Going Gentlyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14958171262765033946noreply@blogger.com