3 December 2020

Vaccine

67 comments:

  1. Anonymous10:15 am

    I expect we will all be very grateful to our English guineapigs. I made this joke last night to my partner, not something I would really say publicly, but howl me down. A politician here today said similar.

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    1. I'm with you Andrew. I don't fancy being a guinea pig.

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    2. I look nothing like a guinea pig - more like a mountain gorilla.

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  2. Google image search says no other images like this have been found, so excellent Mr. P. (although that nice Mr. Putin might have put your name on his list). But I'm now looking to you for guidance. What will you do if you have to have a mobile phone to show proof of vaccination in order to gain entry to pubs and Hull City football ground (I ask about the latter just in case they were ever to play my favourite team)?

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    1. In fact Hull City often used to play Goole Town in pre-season friendlies. We whupped their asses! I shall have my proof of vaccination hand-written by a calligrapher on a vellum scroll.

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    2. Readers of Yorkshire Pudding should be aware that Tasker has a terrific post on Goole. Please visit it.
      Does Goole really exist? Does Tasker Dunham?
      My late brother used to say *On what planet am I dreaming this?*

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    3. Even the people who dwell in Goole (Goolies?) do not know if the town exists. Perhaps it is just a beautiful dream.

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    4. Hameldy is very kind. However, YP is correct. Goole did once exist but is now just a dream. TD has always been a dream.

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  3. And Vrsula the Viking says: All in good time. Less haste. The first will be the first, the last will last.

    My poor doctor has been on a losing wicket for years trying to convince me to get the beeping common garden gnome variety of an annual flue jab. Nah. Que sera sera. I shall go out, not least in the name of globalization and to the tune of Schiller's "Alle Menschen werden Brueder" set to the tune of Beethoven's Ninth Symphony, in the spirit of the Spanish, the Chinese and whatever else curses were and are sent to mankind. I will draw a line (not to say Vine) and stop short at the French Disease. As much as I adore Nietzsche my life's ambition is not to embrace a horse in Turin.

    Partially yours, YP,
    U

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    1. I resisted the annual flu vaccine for years until a fellow I knew died from his refusal. Like me he thought the he was invulnerable. He wasn't.

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    2. Did you ever see that black and white movie that is haunted by by Nietzsche's poor horse, Ursula?
      It is a perplexing and repetitive film, with subtitles.
      Think of Last Year At Marienbad but bleak and portentous.
      A teenage girl spends her whole life taking care of her widowed father, in some remote country village in mittel Europa.
      Every day her father's only workhorse has to be watered, fed, cleaned down.
      The texture of the film is like some mad dream that goes on and on ...

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    3. The Turin Horse (2011) is a Hungarian film directed by Bela Tarr.
      Available on DVD.

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    4. The Turin Horse. Opening Scene.
      YouTube.
      The Turin Horse. Introduction by Thomas Elsaesser (2013).
      YouTube.

      Thanks for indulging all my off-piste comments, Yorky. I know of no blogger who is so tolerant, good natured, and humorous.
      I do take the virus seriously. The closure of Debenhams, with all the job losses, gutted me. We can't do lockdowns for much longer.

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    5. Hamel(d), thank you for mentioning that title. I shall seek it out. I like nightmares, "mad dreams that go on and on" as you call them. Their function largely that you feel grateful for waking up.

      As to your paying homage to YP's blog I agree. He is a generous host.

      U

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  4. I won't be having any vaccine until I know what it's made of and what side effects it has.

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    1. It's made of hard work and scientific expertise. The main side effects will be a little red mark on your arm and slight soreness which will soon disappear. Don't Resist! Put The Vaccine on Your List!

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    2. Well said! My attitude as well - I'll be lined up as soon as it's my turn!

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    3. Cynicism can be very healthy and indeed intelligent...but not always. That is why I made today's cartoon poster.

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  5. I just don't think they're going to give us a DANGEROUS vaccine. It's not like the thing hasn't been tested. I'm all for it. If the authorities want me to have it (and working in a school I'm sure we'll be on the list) I'll take it.

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    1. I will have no second thoughts whatsoever about having the vaccine. Those who refuse it will be endangering their communities. It's not all about "me"!

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    2. Your reasoning doesn't make sense, YP. Presumably the whole point of being vaccinated is that YOU will be protected. Me, me, me? It stands to reason I won't. Death be upon me. That'll sort the haves from the have nots.

      As to your "not having second thoughts" - what you need isn't so much thought as trust. Just because someone throws you a bone doesn't mean you have to chew it. Particularly as the bone is coming from a government who postponed initial action when advised by those blasted experts who, apparently, are best not to be listened to. Now that the Tory Party's popularity is at stake guess what - and a bit like Trump claiming that the British are at the forefront (thanks to German technology). At the forefront of what? Another piss up in the brewery they can't organize, still resulting in vomit?

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    3. Germs can travel quickly through a community and make a lot of people sick. If enough people get sick, it can lead to an outbreak. But when enough people are vaccinated against a certain disease, the germs can’t travel as easily from person to person — and the entire community is less likely to get the disease.

      That means even people who can’t get vaccinated will have some protection from getting sick. And if a person does get sick, there’s less chance of an outbreak because it’s harder for the disease to spread. Eventually, the disease becomes rare — and sometimes, it’s wiped out altogether.

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    4. We need a critical mass of people to be vaccinated before we are out of the woods.

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    5. My point. Not to quibble, but really, the inconsistency is breath taking. Just a few weeks back, she found fault with someone who did not heed the expert medical opinion of a vet. And now....

      Please feel free to delete this, YP. It sounds as if I am being argumentative. In fact, I guess I am.

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    6. Debby is surely right.
      One of my sisters worked with Save the Children for years.
      She said smallpox is the one virus we have more or less controlled.
      The phrase *beauty is skin deep* comes from smallpox.
      You can see photos of people who survived smallpox, with scarred faces.

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    7. There has not been a case of smallpox in the United States since 1949.
      Thanks to vaccination.
      Between 1900 and 1979 anything between 300 million to 500 million people died of smallpox, worldwide.
      See two posts online ...

      Smallpox and the photos anti-vaxxers don't want you to see.
      nzherald.co (New Zealand).

      1,086 smallpox virus premium high resolution photos.
      Getty Images.

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    8. Debby, why is it when people say they "don't quibble" they then proceed to do just that? Does "she" have a name when she is at home? Being big headed let's assume you mean Ursula, ie me.

      If you are referring to a certain person's bulldog past her quality-of-life- date then yes, I stand by what I said. Being kind to others does, occasionally, come at a cost, our loss. The overriding concern should be for the dog not for the owner who can't say goodbye. It's selfish. But then you-know-who always knows best. And when the time comes he'll cry buckets on his blog. Milking his readers for sobbing into their communal hanky.

      Anyway, at risk of testing your thinking faculties, may I suggest that a vet's advice re a dog that's basically had it has nothing to do with/shouldn't be compare to a vaccine. A vaccine as yet to be tested, large scale, on those who, forever and day, don't know their virus from a bacterial infection. As long as the doctor prescribes the asked for antibiotic (the popular cure all - cue laughter in medics' chambers) all is well. As to Covid - Sure, slam in the jab. For all you know it's water. But at least it'll keep the masses quiet and the placebo effect, never to be underestimated, may kick in.

      Before you go up in flames, Debby, I am not anti vaccination, I am all for damage limitation. And I am cautious. Softly softly does it. No need to jump into shallow waters head first.

      U

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    9. You are not She Who Must Be Obeyed, Ursula.
      You are She Who Must Be Read.
      Susan Sontag said Paul Goodman was the best writer of his generation: she only wanted to be friends with him, but he disdained her every time they met.

      I'm not getting into pets, any more than I'm getting into the Trans debate.

      I'll just say this: Vets keep cats and dogs alive past their time, and make money out of it. In England my Uncle George wasn't allowed to give his horses certain injections, which he was able to do in Italy, because English vets charge big bucks for it.
      Call me Uncle Quibble but never Uncle Waffle.

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  6. I can't wait until we can get the vaccine! There won't be any refusal in THIS house, I can assure you.

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    1. How weird! You and Gregg believe in truth!

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  7. It will be spring before it will be my turn, I suppose. Our Health Minister said last night on the main news that it would not be until January (or later) before the vaccine is made available for Germany, and then of course top of the list are those who work in the health and care sector, which I am not, or in a high risk group like my elderly parents.
    But like you, I won't have second thoughts but will grab a jab when it's here.

    Vanessa the Vaccine? I have to tell my running buddy - her name is Vanessa.

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  8. I'm 90% for and 10% nervous. I'm all for vaccines usually (and have the annual flu jab), but worry whether the Covid ones have been tested enough on people with autoimmune problems (which I have). I don't want to find it makes me very ill or makes me grow two heads in five years' time.

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    1. As they say, two heads are better than one ADDY!

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  9. Personally, I can't wait to get one. Will there be risk? Possibly. But it will be a controlled one, unlike getting the virus which appears to be a toss-up. No symptoms? Mild symptoms? Symptoms requiring hospitalization? Death?
    Here's my arm. Thank you.

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  10. I like reading your comments and finding that people are expressing both for and against without anyone losing their rag or being unreasonable about the bases for their particular views. It is comforting to know that discussion and airing of opinions can take still place in calm and reasonable manner in this world where the headlines would suggest there is always someone prepared to be mortally offended by someone else's view/action/existence in this world.

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    1. What a splendid comment Tigger. I appreciate it. COVID, Trump and Johnson often threaten to bring out the worst in people.

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  11. Unfortunately not many people ahead of me will be likely to refuse so I will not move up the ladder any faster than my normal turn which would be tomorrow if it were my choice.

    I am alive now because, after the cancer came back I was immediately offered a drug trial. I accepted without hesitation. I was on the real drug not the placebo (lucky me) and the cancer receded within the first three months and has hidden away somewhere in my body lurking for its next opportunity when the defences are off guard.

    People who don't take the precautions against catching the disease be it ignoring the lockdown or refusing should ask themselves whether they should ask for NHS treatment ahead of others who need it for whatever legitimate purpose.

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    1. You are speaking from experience and I am behind you 100% Graham.

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    2. Great news, Graham. Lang may your lum reek, but keep away from hashish.

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  12. That is a truly awful cartoon or bit of advertising, not sure which.

    I'll end up getting the vaccine, not much choice really. As a nurse I doubt I would be allowed to work without it. I am nervous because it's new and untested but I also trust the science.

    As for Ursula's argument that the vaccine only protects the person who is vaccinated, untrue. There is always a segment of the population who can't be vaccinated, allergies, too young or those who have had Guillian-Barre syndrome, and everyone else being vaccinated, helps to protect these people as well.

    I guess time will tell if the vaccine is effective and safe.

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    1. Truly awful cartoon? You really know how to make a guy feel good Lily! I created it myself.

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    2. Back to the drawing board, Yorky.

      There is an episode in Mad Men when the clients rubbish Ted's artwork.
      His tactic is clever.
      Turning on the clients he tells them that his agency no longer needs or wants their contract. They are just too dumb to appreciate clever advertising.
      The client returns later, grateful for Ted's advertising genius.

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    3. My apologies, I had not idea who the artist was.

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    4. The naivete was deliberate.

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    5. I'm waiting for the strip cartoon. Dad's army drafted to test the vaccine because they belong to the more experience members of the community. "Do you think that's wise?" asks Sergeant Wilson. "We're all doomed" says Private Fraser as he pushes Vlad away. "Permission to be first" requests Corporal Jones, adding "They don't like it up 'em" as Vanessa the vaccine injects Vlad. "Where's Private Pike?" asks Mannering. "Self isolating Sir" is the answer. "Stupid boy!"

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    6. Ha-ha! Very droll! Hattie Jacques will be waiting for you with an especially large syringe.

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    7. If you can name me a better screen nurse than Hattie Jacques, call me Kenneth Williams. John Le Mesurier her husband was in a class all by himself.

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    8. Oh I forgot about Barbara!
      It's been a while since I thought about her boyfriend, the ever affable Sid James.
      Sid's the bloke I'd want visiting me in hospital. A strange thought since I have never been in hospital, so far.
      I can just hear Sid:

      *I brought you a box of toffees, Rum and Raisin, and that magazine you asked for, The Fortean Times ... Blimey! You like reading weird stuff, don't yer!*

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  13. I don't feel the urge to be one of the first .. we are fairly well insulated by distance up here .. but I have a colleague who is even prepared to pay to be amongst the first to receive the jab (apparently the drug companies here have reserved a % of product for commercial gain rather than the government funded dose). My colleague needs to travel in and out of the country on a regular basis for family.

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    1. Oops .. forgot to ask .. is that your cartoon YP?

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    2. Yes. I am the new Roy Lichtenstein Carol.

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  14. An excellent piece of artwork Mr. P! I too will get the vaccine when available.

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    1. Sometimes you have to grasp what is in front of you.

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    2. That's one way of getting one's face slapped YP.

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    3. Again I reckon you are speaking from experience Graham! Ouch!

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  15. It's hard to see how we'll get free of the disease without a vaccine. We should remember how infectious polio is and how mass vaccination has eradicated it from all but three nations, Pakistan, Afghanistan and Nigeria according to Google. We'll be in the queue for ours when the time comes, we want our lives back and want to see the virus gone, like polio.

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    1. When you are in the queue, watch out for a burly seventeen stone Yorkshireman approaching from behind. He may elbow you out of the way.

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  16. A friend here is amongst the first to have a jab of the new vaccine with no ill effects. Not sure if he's a guinea pig or is just high risk. No idea what's happening locally, but as I don't have an annual flu jab (although I should) I may miss out.

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    1. Perhaps you should contact your health centre to make sure you are not forgotten CG.

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  17. I'm with Vanessa, it takes Uncle Yorkshire Pudding to lead the way;)

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    1. I like the term "avuncular" Auntie Thelma.

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